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Posted at 2:17 PM ET, 03/10/2011

Jump ball: Who deserves more playing time?

By Washington Post editors

Flip Saunders's "back to camp" approach has stirred some debate among commenters, much of it centering on which players deserve more playing time.

For example, LarryInClintonMD wrote:

Can Seraphin really play? Does he have game? If you can answer yes to that question or not, it doesn't obviate the fact that Saunders did not give Seraphin measureable playing time in the beginning of the season to answer it.

What do you think? Which young players do you want to see more of, and why?

By Washington Post editors  | March 10, 2011; 2:17 PM ET
 
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In typical Larry style, it's not really clear what he's asking. Of course, Seraphin was not given play time at the beginning of the season when he was completely raw. They coached him up to a point where he generally knows what he's doing out there. He's still a work in progress.

You can see some method to the madness when you evaluate the order in which the draft picks started seeing court time. Wall was the most ready and got his minutes immediately. Booker came next then Seraphin and finally Ndiaye.

In response to the editors' question, I think Booker deserves as much play time as we can throw at him. Wall deserves as much play time as he can physically stand. The rest of the rookies haven't proven much so they only deserve what they deliver in practice. The reason to play them now is that the season is over and we might as well evaluate talent and let them get minutes. When next season starts, we won't have the luxury of not needing to try to win.

Posted by: jon_quest | March 10, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"In response to the editors' question, I think Booker deserves as much play time as we can throw at him. Wall deserves as much play time as he can physically stand. The rest of the rookies haven't proven much so they only deserve what they deliver in practice."

Agreed, only the development of Wall and Booker is interesting to me. Nick Young is the only other one who I think has earned his minutes out there. I wouldn't mind getting a chance to look at Crawford too. In a limited sample size, he's shown flashes even though he takes way to many bad shots.

Posted by: ejjam2 | March 10, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree. JW and Booker seem to be playing inspired ball. Seraphin is really raw and will need a lot of coaching a guidance, but could be a good guy to come off the bench. NY and JW play good together, so I would like to see them get as many minutes a possible together. Other than that, let the minutes fall where they may...

Posted by: TEliasB | March 10, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

First off, did a thread up and disappear, because I answered Larry's 'point' in detail about Seraphin and now I can't find it.

But jon_quest did a pretty succinct job of answering it the way I did, so moving on...

I hope to and would expect to see more of all of the rookies. Some of that will happen just based on injuries, regardless. Now that they have almost a full season under their belt, and their season is going nowhere, it's time to put Booker, Crawford, Serf and Hamady out there for reasonable minutes. Booker and to an extent Crawford have shown some of what they can bring. Time to allow Serf and H to do the same. I'd also like to see more of Shakur. It would be good to know if he belongs in the mix of guards for next year as the backup or 3rd PG.

They should back off on Wall's minutes to reasonable levels. Imo, there's nothing to be gained by playing him 40 minutes a night. 33-35ish would do nicely and lower the risk of injury.

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

ts35, yeah it seems a thread got deleted, along w/ 2 of my responses. Thanks WP for wasting my time.

Posted by: Darnell1 | March 10, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The problem is going to be like last year after the estate sale...young guys are going to finally get some minutes and when they put up some numbers in games that mean nothing people and Ernie (Blathce contract extension) are going to believe the guy can play?

Right now the team has one NBA starter and that is Wall.

The other guys on the roster are backups and most wouldn't get off the bench if they played for a good team.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

ts35, yeah it seems a thread got deleted, along w/ 2 of my responses. Thanks WP for wasting my time.

Posted by: Darnell1 | March 10, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of wasting time, please:

NO MORE JUMP BALL.

LarryinShaunLivingstonsBasement's brilliant comments don't need to be re-posted.

Posted by: prescrunk | March 10, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody noticed this other than me. When john wall lost the weight he had a harder time finishing at the rim. He goes full speed for a hard earned lay up and misses. Is it because he does not have the strength and muscle to take the contact near the basket?

Posted by: jefferu | March 10, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"Has anybody noticed this other than me. When john wall lost the weight he had a harder time finishing at the rim. He goes full speed for a hard earned lay up and misses. Is it because he does not have the strength and muscle to take the contact near the basket?"

I've noticed it too, but it seems to me like the inconsistent finishing has been happening all year. Sometimes he's just too fast, he'll learn to harness it though.

Posted by: ejjam2 | March 10, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I would start the game off with Wall, Young, Booker, Seraphin, and McGee. I think you could see how well McGee works with a physical, defensive-minded frontcourt, which in my mind is just as important as seeing how the rooks perform.

I think also trying a smaller, scoring oriented team of Wall, Crawford, Young, Booker, and McGee would be interesting.

If you want to sprinkle in some time for Shakur and Ndiaye that's cool. I don't see much reason to play Jianlian anymore. Despite what he's capable of doing, he just doesn't. I don't know why.

Regardless, I would define roles for each of the 8 players I mentioned, so they know when they are getting on the court, and how long they'll be there. None of this looking-over-their-shoulder crap.

Posted by: segastyle | March 10, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

yeah, more time for booker....less time for wall. crawford needs some minutes...why play guys that are hurt or hurting, the team is going nowhere.....

Posted by: joerutgens72 | March 10, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Serifin, crawford, booker, Ndiaye & Shakur.
Play Javale until he fouls out or he has 10 TO's whatever comes first.
I agree that Wall's PT should be monitored.
Ted should rehire that shooting coach that we used to have. This team needs him.

Posted by: VBFan | March 10, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I think that the bullets should go with wall young crawford booker seraphin. We need to know how to move forward in the rebuilding process. The first poster said it best

Posted by: mrhney03 | March 10, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

This Jump Ball stuff is ridiculous. Larry is the poster who, by far, writes the most nonsense. He repeats the same points a million times (fire Flip, Livingston is god) and makes no sense at all (see the quotation above). We try to ignore him -- and then you guys re-post his junk???

That quotation is nonsense. First of all, he misuses "obviate." Why does WaPo quote a blathering, repetitive, mixedup guy who is misusing a fancy word? I'll admit that I had to look up the word -- and Larry is completely misusuing it. He's using it as "erase"; it means to "make an action unnecessary." We can all misuse fancy words - why repeat it? Secondly, it makes no sense. Larry is really just trying to say that Flip is the devil because he didn't play a raw rookie early. Third, if you guys want to ask the question in the title - then just ask it. The question is completely unrelated to Larry's nonsense. How is Larry's bluster necessary as a "jumping off point" to the question of who should play now?

Do the "WaPo Editors" really not see how Larry's quotation is just a collection of disjointed words with questionable flourish that don't actually mean anything???

Posted by: Urnesto | March 10, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I figure Seraphin is going to get more time simply because the team wants to evaluate where he is and what he can bring in live game action.

I'm also curious to see N'diaye get some minutes.

Pretty much all of the starting positions -- except for point guard and possibly SG -- are up for grabs at this point.

As far as Booker goes, I think he's an awesome addition to the team, but I don't think using him as a full-time starter is the most effective way to maximize his ability. I see him as the kind of player that the team will use sparingly in the first half of games and then use to close out games in the 4th quarter; try to limit his minutes to about 20-24 a night backloaded in the second half of games, and the team will get great production -- we know that much already. When his minutes go up to 30-35 though it seems like there's a drop off in production. The one exception was the OKC game, but in that case he was getting extra minutes in Double-OT when everyone's legs were starting to drag. He'll probably get expanded minutes down the stretch out of necessity simply based on Blatche's injury status. But once this team starts to develop a deeper talent pool, I see him as more of part of the regular rotation rather than a front-line starter. It's already clear though that he's going to be one of the pieces going forward. A really good rookie season.

Posted by: JPRS | March 10, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Why does WaPo quote a blathering, repetitive, mixedup guy who is misusing a fancy word?

Posted by: Urnesto | March 10, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Hah, yeah, "obviate" is not correctly used...I mean, it's not WRONG....but, not the word you're looking for in this situation.

Posted by: dfresh58 | March 10, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"We can all misuse fancy words - why repeat it?"

It's not just the fancy ones, either. (Seriously, "superflourish"? "spending wheels?")

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Ted should rehire that shooting coach that we used to have. This team needs him.

Posted by: VBFan | March 10, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Damned right. DAVE HOPLA is needed. I mean, we needed him with vets, but rookies don't need him? Come on. And how much did he cost? Peanuts. Are the 'ZARDS so cheap, or so stupid, they can't see the obvious need for his reprise?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 10, 2011 7:41 PM | Report abuse

The irony is i know who needs to sit down. Andray Blatche needs to sit. Javale McGee needs constructive minutes where he has specific tasks to focus on. And the Wiz need to abandon the Yi project too.

I said earlier in the year, for where Booker and Seraphin were drafted and the needs of this team they should be playing more.

Crawford has a NBA mentality, but not sure he is the answer. Seems to have better basketball I.Q., but he likes to jack up shots.

Posted by: oknow1 | March 11, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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