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Posted at 6:13 PM ET, 03/ 2/2011

Open thread: Wizards (15-44) vs. Warriors (26-33)

By Michael Lee

Randy Wittman will serve as head coach for the second time this season as Coach Flip Saunders deals with a family emergency in Cleveland involving his ailing mother, Kay. Wittman said it was a position that he did not want to be in, but understood that Saunders has more pertinent responsibilities. "Family first," Wittman said. "Our prayers are with Flip and his family in this trying time, with his mother being ill. Hopefully, things will go well there for him and his family." Wittman led the Wizards to a 104-90 victory over the Indiana Pacers on Dec. 29, the last time Saunders was forced to miss a game.

Let the conversation begin in the thread below. You can also join the conversation on Twitter with Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 7:00 p.m.; TV: CSN; Radio: 106.7 FM. Check out a live box score from tonight's game here.

By Michael Lee  | March 2, 2011; 6:13 PM ET
 
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Comments

This will likely get lost in the wash a bit, but it's an interesting article

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=haberstroh_tom&id=6174007

Posted by: ts35 | March 2, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I just witnessed Dorell Wright block Andray Blatche's shot, McGee grabs the rebound and then Wright blocks McGee. WTF????? Both 7 footers get their shots tossed one after another. This team is absolutely pathetic. I really wish I would have known the product on the court would be simply terible so I could have prevented the renewing of my season tix. Goes to show you I am home sick with the flu and couldn't give away my tix. Pathetic!!!!!

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 8:50 PM | Report abuse

On a nightly basis, this may be the least competitive team the NBA has fielded in a decade.

Posted by: Blurred | March 2, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

None of Blurred's opinions mean anyting since he only watches games here or there. How do you know ANYTHING if you don't watch the team?

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | March 2, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

First let me note that I said "I'll," which for those versed in grammar means "I will" or "I shall." Both of which are future tense, indicating future behavior, not past or current. Basically I was saying this team isn't even fun to watch anymore and I have better things to do that watch us lose to the ____________ (fill in the blank with whatever sub .500 team we are "playing" that night) by 12-30 points.

Secondly, what part of my comment is even remotely arguable? We are currently losing to the Warriors by 16 at home. THE EFFING WARRIORS!!!!!!! They are the Clippers of the just North of LA!!!!!

I watch plenty of games, just seems lately it's like a police beatdown everynight. "Nothing to see here folks"

Posted by: Blurred | March 2, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Fire this entire staff except for maybe Sam & Unseld. I cant stress enough how much I hate this system. Its horrible for our team. Go get Wall a fast break HC. We need an up & down system with real picks. Most will say we need a good defensive HC and I for one wanted Thibbedeau to be our HC before Flip and my other guy I have always loved is Skiles.

Skiles maybe free for us but still, I think the most important thing is the Franchise player and you have to do right by him. Wall is a fast break, up & down PG so thats what kinda coach you need to find. Then after that you can hire a defensive coach to work with that HC but we need to run and set real picks. I hate this system and I cant watch it another year. No one can get to the rim and trust me when I say that its not just the players

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 2, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey look...we closed it to 12. That's a close game for this team.

Posted by: Blurred | March 2, 2011 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree 100% we are getting blown out by the Warriors, who may I remind you, are on a 4 game losing streak of their own. How much longer do the loyal fans of this tired, slow, terible team have to watch and experience abysmal basketball? Ted you need to shake things up and do it now before you lose the fading fans you still have

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

@Coach2279: Saw that sequence of blocked shots too and I had to laugh as well. I thought I was seeing things. LOL. In all seriousness though, I feel bad for season ticket holders. You all deserve a lot better than this, and that's saying something as I go back 35 years with this team. This is bad. Sorry.

Posted by: fenderdeluxe | March 2, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Blurred and anyoneelse who cares. Flip the channel. My Tarheels just beat FSU in Florida.

The Tarheels will be the best story in the NCAA this year after not being ranked for about half the season.

Barnes hit a clutch 3 pointer with the clock running down, Gilbert like, to ice the game and the win.

Go Tarheels!!!

You know, back a bit when the University President hired Matt Daugherty as the coach while Dean was away on vacation and Dean didn't approve, ole Matt made a mess of things. They fired his butt. Dem' Heels don't suffer foolishness for too long.

Wonder how long dee's Wizards gonna keep foolin' around???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Nothing against the guy because I'm sure he's a pretty cool dude, but this goes to show you how pathetic it has become to be a Wiz fan nowadays. I've heard a lot of excitement about signing MUSTAFA SHAKUR for the rest of the season...WTF????? There is a reason this dude is in the Developmental league. Just reinforces the point of the fact that a Wizards fan doesn't really have much to look forward to..SMDH

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 9:12 PM | Report abuse

@fenderdeluxe..Thanks, I experience this pain right along with you. These past few years has been downright awful to be a Wizards fan and i don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. I have been a season ticket holder for 5 years now and haven't seen it so bad. I still have to believe that this mess has to do witht he failures of Eddie Grunfield as well. I put a lot of blame on the players but our front office stinks, no question about it.

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

@fenderdeluxe..Thanks, I experience this pain right along with you. These past few years has been downright awful to be a Wizards fan and i don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. I have been a season ticket holder for 5 years now and haven't seen it so bad. I still have to believe that this mess has to do witht he failures of Eddie Grunfield as well. I put a lot of blame on the players but our front office stinks, no question about it.

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, meant Ernie

Posted by: Coach2279 | March 2, 2011 9:17 PM | Report abuse

holy smokes...they may make it a game after all

Posted by: Blurred | March 2, 2011 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Way too many bad shots down the stretch. No need to take 3 point shotswith ao much time remaining. Thy're getting syops on D but not converting on O

Posted by: zack5 | March 2, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Coach2279: Well, 5 pt game! Yes Ernie has a lot to answer for. I like the owner though so we'll see.

Posted by: fenderdeluxe | March 2, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

But let me tell you. Don't know how many of you follow them Heels and Duke. But this rookie/freshman that Carolina got, Barnes that is, has a stroke/shot and an instinct that makes you think about Michael Jordan and Bob McAdoo.

A deadly shot and the heart and the confidence to sing Katie Bar The Door on your butt.

I heard somebody talkin about there was nothing in the draft, but this Tarheel Team has the Act to make this guy a National Star by NCAA tournaments end.

Thank God, it is good to be a Tarheel Fan and have to root for these Wizards as well.

Everybody must know that God must be a Tarheel because the sky is always Carolina Blue.

Turn out the lights, baby, this party is over. Harrison Barnes is in the house and is arriving on the National scene. We got Duke Saturday in the Dean Dome.

It's gon' be a barn burner down on Tobacco Road, com' Satdy'.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Who needs Stephen Curry when you can have Mike Miller and Randy Foye?

Has anyone asked EG to justify THAT one!?

Posted by: gbooksdc | March 2, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, not a bad comeback... But still.

Posted by: fenderdeluxe | March 2, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

And that seems about right. get down by 18 or 20 to a pretty not so good team and then make a run at it late and come up just a tad short.

blatche had a good game, so look for him to get 2 fouls in the first 3 minutes of the next one.

And larry - shut the f up. We probably all watch a lot ball. this is the WIZARDS board

Posted by: Blurred | March 2, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Yep, this is the Wizards Board, but it is also March Madness, baby, one the biggest pasttimes in America, baby.

Now run and tell that.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 9:47 PM | Report abuse

And I do declare, Dem Tarheels don't readily jump at the chance to come out after one year of ball, but if this fella, Harrison Barnes decides to come out the Wizards should get a shot at him.

He'll be under the radar and probably not projected to be a top five pick as of now.

But I am a tellin' you Blurred, he is that good.

You see there is a method to my Madness Mr. Blurred. Harrison Barnes will easily be a better prospect than John Wall.

Harrison Barnes is headed for Durantula Air.

You heard me.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"Who needs Stephen Curry when you can have Mike Miller and Randy Foye?

Has anyone asked EG to justify THAT one!?"

It's pretty simple. There was not a GM in the NBA that was going to select Curry with the 5th pick of that draft. The near consensus 5th pick of that draft is not even playing in the NBA. Any more revisionist history whining you want me to clear up?

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 2, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Tar Heel Nation, shut the f*** up. You're going nowhere this year, or next, or the next. Just run of the mill.

As for the Wizards, I can wait until next year. This one is a disaster.

Posted by: zinger1 | March 2, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, why do you guys waste time whining about a rebuilding team playing poorly? It's redundant.

I knew they would mostly lose this year.

And, for those complaining about the "system", I can see where you are coming from - however, with the turnstill roster we've had this season, I don't know that a fair assessment can be made. That and in order to be an uptempo fast break team you either need good defense and rebounding or a lot of knock down shooters, of which we have neither.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 2, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Tar Heel Nation, shut the f*** up. You're going nowhere this year, or next, or the next. Just run of the mill.

Posted by: zinger1 | March 2, 2011 10:05 PM

Stayed tuned good buddy. You only gonna have to wait through the month to eat some crow.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"Who needs Stephen Curry when you can have Mike Miller and Randy Foye?

Has anyone asked EG to justify THAT one!?"

I kinda liked Stephen Curry in that draft. But, looking back, a lot of draft experts didn't think that Curry had the size or physicality to excel at the pro level. It is what it is.

By the way, Nick Young is a B-A-A-A-A-D Man!

Posted by: musicmanjr | March 2, 2011 10:24 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty simple. There was not a GM in the NBA that was going to select Curry with the 5th pick of that draft. The near consensus 5th pick of that draft is not even playing in the NBA. Any more revisionist history whining you want me to clear up?

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 2, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Yea, he was picked 7th because the two GM's picking before GS were Ernie and Mr. Kahn (Minn) both losing organizations.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 2, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/wolves/basketball_operations.html

Bill Laimbeer
Assistant Coach

wonder why Kevin Love is having such a good year...it helps to have a big man coach

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 2, 2011 10:37 PM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD.

Hope you guys can beat Duke...Maryland is going to surprise everyone and win the ACC touney.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 2, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I turned the channel on the Wiz after the 3rd. Came back for the last 5 minutes. Glad to see them keep fighting, and not give up. Booker really gave a great effort down the stretch.

Seraphin was clueless tonight. Blatche didn't box Lee out on the play where we needed a stop to give us a chance to tie. Pretty much sums up Blatche. I kind of feel bad, some what, for the guy as he is constantly harassed by the HOME TOWN fans. He gets more Boos than any player on the opposing team. As skilled as he is offensively, the other parts of his game prevent him from being a *winning* player.

The 2nd half of the season has been really really bad. I know Ted said he wanted the players to treat these last games as a new season. The new season so far is a hugggge bust.

Posted by: onfirepsports | March 2, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

I watched Kendall Marshall play about 25 games in his 4 years in High School. In the end, his lack of defense will be the death of UNC this season. Some guard is going to go off for 30 and end UNC's run.

I love Marshall, and think he is a top 3 passer I have ever seen, on any level, but he defense is terrible. He needs to make the commitment on the defensive end to take his game to the next level.

Posted by: onfirepsports | March 2, 2011 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Both McGee and AB should be embarrassed by how they played tonight, as should pretty much the rest of the team except for Trevor Booker.

Posted by: ts35 | March 2, 2011 11:04 PM | Report abuse

"Who needs Stephen Curry when you can have Mike Miller and Randy Foye?

Has anyone asked EG to justify THAT one!?"

Two Words: John Wall.

Posted by: JPRS | March 2, 2011 11:10 PM | Report abuse

ts35,

AB has no reason to hang his head. He played a solid game. This was a good match-up for him. He wasn't great, but he did a pretty good job on both sides of the court.

The team played better post-trading deadline without Blatche in the line-up. He hasn't looked good in the past couple games, but he looked fine tonight. Young also had his moments tonight. He went cold in the second period, but he started and finished strong. Wall looked OK. Booker was great as usual in the closing minutes. He deserved more court time.

Posted by: JPRS | March 2, 2011 11:18 PM | Report abuse

ts35,

AB has no reason to hang his head. He played a solid game. This was a good match-up for him. He wasn't great, but he did a pretty good job on both sides of the court.

No, he really didn't. There's no reason the Warriors should dominate the Wizards on the boards.

Posted by: ts35 | March 2, 2011 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

I watched Kendall Marshall play about 25 games in his 4 years in High School. In the end, his lack of defense will be the death of UNC this season. Some guard is going to go off for 30 and end UNC's run.

I love Marshall, and think he is a top 3 passer I have ever seen, on any level, but he defense is terrible. He needs to make the commitment on the defensive end to take his game to the next level.

Posted by: onfirepsports | March 2, 2011 10:46 PM

But you have to realize that Marshall is a major reason why the The Heels are coming on strong out of no where. In order for his defense to be an issue some team will have to slow the Heels down first.

The Dean Smith coached Heel could be taken out of their game by a hot Team.

The Roy William coached Heels are less likely to be taken out of their game. When Roy coached Kansas, I never wanted the Heels to play them, because I feared the way they played, speed.

The huge legacy of Dean brought them two NCAA titles. Roy already has two and it has more to do with his style than anything.

Marshall's defense will not be an issue.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 2, 2011 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Ok, third worst in the league right now.....can we win the lottery once again, even with this weak draft?

Irene! Holla atcha boy!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 2, 2011 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"can we win the lottery once again, even with this weak draft?"

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 2, 2011 11:37 PM

No, because league rules prohibit the same team from getting the #1 pick 2 years in a row.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 2, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD.

Hope you guys can beat Duke...Maryland is going to surprise everyone and win the ACC touney.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 2, 2011 10:39 PM

We'll beat Duke. Maryland isn't strong enough to win the ACC tourney. But I'm pulling for them to do well enough to get into March Madness.

When's the last time you've seen a Team drop so fast from the creme de la creme like the Tar Heels and now come back so fast that most don't even realize that they are back?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 3, 2011 12:11 AM | Report abuse

ts35, I liked that link so much I decided to post for those too lazy to not click the link.
___________________________
Washington Wizards, 2009-10
Washington general manager Ernie Grunfeld gutted this team like a fish.

In return for Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison and Brendan Haywood, the Wizards walked away with Josh Howard, Al Thornton, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Quinton Ross, James Singleton, the Cleveland Cavaliers' 2010 first-round pick, the rights to Slovenian forward Emir Preldzic and cash considerations. The Wizards then bought out Ilgauskas, saving the team another $1.5 million.

As expected, Grunfeld dropped the flexibility bomb after deal-making. "We need some freshness and we're getting proven players who will help us," the GM said. "And it gives us some flexibility down the road."

With Thornton being bought out on Tuesday, the only survivor of the Wizards' blowup is Howard -- and that's only because the Wizards re-signed him in the offseason.

The Wizards were 17-33 when the dominos started to fall, and the team eventually stumbled to a 26-56 record. But in the NBA, futility can be rewarded. After all the carnage, the Wizards won the draft lottery and selected John Wall with the first pick. He's no Paul, but Wall certainly has the potential to develop into an elite point guard long before his rookie contract expires. The Wiz still have a ways to go, however, as evidenced by their lowly record of 15-44.

And what have the Wizards done with their precious flexibility? Not much. They handed a 5-year, $36 million contract to Andray Blatche in the offseason, and the returns so far have been uninspiring to say the least. Hoopdata.com tells us that among the 22 power forwards averaging 30 or more minutes per game, Blatche wields the worst true shooting percentage (48.5). His rebounding rate (13.2 percent) is merely average for his position. It's a dubious contract for an equally dubious prospect.

It's clear that the Washington franchise is still under construction. Super-athletic youngster JaVale McGee and Wall represent the building blocks for the organization. And although it's unlikely, they could win the lottery again, which would go a long way to the team regaining respect. But right now, it's hard to envision a return to the playoffs before the 2013-14 season.

Posted by: cbmuzik | March 3, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

ts35,

Blatche 20 points (7-14 FG), 6 assists to 2 turnovers (3 to 1), 9 rebounds (4 offensive boards), 1 steal, 1 block.

Golden State's starting front court shot 5 for 15 (33 percent), it was only marginally better if you include back-ups.

David Lee's 16 rebounds were ridiculous and the 54 to 40 team edge was pretty nasty. Curry's 9 rebounds were crazy too.

In terms of offensive production, Blatche posted respectable numbers.

Posted by: JPRS | March 3, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

In terms of offensive production, Blatche posted respectable numbers.

Posted by: JPRS | March 3, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse
************************************************************************

Yeah, he's been known to do that, sometimes for three games in a row! (Before he lays down for the next six.)

So what is Grunfeld's plan? He's now getting rid of guys he brought in just last year to replace the other guys he got rid of. There's no way he knows what he's doing. He's just spinning his wheels. What a joke of a franchise the Wizards have become. They can't attract top free agents and Grunfeld is clueless when it comes to the draft. If Leonsis is such a good owner, as people have ordained him, both Grunfeld and Saunders will be flushed down the toilet asap like the turds that they are.

Posted by: sonny2 | March 3, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"So what is Grunfeld's plan?"

I thought it was pretty plain. Rebuild around Wall, choosing players who fit in with his skills. Collect a certain number of extra draft choices. No flashy free agent signings. Clear the contractual decks where possible to preserve flexibility in the coming months.

Looks to me like Leonsis thinks it's a good plan.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 3, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"Grunfeld is clueless when it comes to the draft."

He has had mixed success, definitely. And anyone would have picked Wall. But are you saying you think Booker and Seraphin were poor choices? Personally I'm impressed by their recent play. Ndiaye we won't see for another year or two, but that's par for second round centers.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 3, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

ts35,

Blatche 20 points (7-14 FG), 6 assists to 2 turnovers (3 to 1), 9 rebounds (4 offensive boards), 1 steal, 1 block.

Golden State's starting front court shot 5 for 15 (33 percent), it was only marginally better if you include back-ups.

David Lee's 16 rebounds were ridiculous and the 54 to 40 team edge was pretty nasty. Curry's 9 rebounds were crazy too.

In terms of offensive production, Blatche posted respectable numbers.

Posted by: JPRS

Sure, AB posted 'respectable' numbers.....against Ekpe Udoh. In the meantime, the Warriors were smoking the Wizards on the glass and getting pretty much whatever shots they wanted on their way to a 20pt lead in the 3rd quarter. Through most of the first half, the Warriors had twice the boards the Wizards did. How on earth should AB and the rest of the team not be embarrassed by that? Getting smoked on the glass by Bulls sucked, but at least it's understandable.

Watching the game, it looked like in the first half when it got into an up and down game, the Wiz -- in particular to me AB and JM -- were content to play sloppy and really only try on the offensive side. Sure the team made a nice effort to get back into it in the fourth, but if they had played with that intensity throughout they might have gotten a "W" instead of a 'nice-try'.

Posted by: ts35 | March 3, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

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