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Posted at 5:44 PM ET, 03/ 6/2011

Open thread: Wizards (16-45) at Pistons (22-41)

By Michael Lee

The Wizards snapped a seven-game losing streak against Minnesota on Saturday and now they will attempt to end a seven-game slide against the Detroit Pistons. The Wizards have not beaten the Pistons since Dec. 9, 2008. They came close to a victory the last time they were in Auburn Hills, Mich., where Flint native JaVale McGee had 20 points and 16 rebounds but they lost 115-110 in overtime on Nov. 21. Nick Young is back after missing the 103-96 win over the Timberwolves with flu-like symptoms. Rashard Lewis (right knee tendinitis) and Josh Howard (left hamstring) are out.

Let the conversation begin in the thread below. You can also join the conversation on Twitter with Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 6:00 p.m.; TV: CSN; Radio: 106.7 FM. Check out a live box score from tonight's game here.

By Michael Lee  | March 6, 2011; 5:44 PM ET
 
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Looking forward to seeing Monroe. He has been awesome lately which makes me sad since the Pistons fans were ripping him so much that I actually dont think they deserve him. Also really looking forward to seeing a pretty healthy Wall vs Stuckey. Stuckey has killed him before and Stuckey is hot now but Wall is healthy and playing more like he did in the SL, Preseaon, & early part of the regular season. Is it me or did we go from seeing Wall getting easily beat on D by scrubs let alone stars every single game to not really remembering anyone beating him often of late. The bottom line is he wasnt healthy.


PS- You guys always know what I feel about situations like this. They say NY is going to play and the Pistons start BG. Post NY all game until they stop it. Right from the jump. If he sucks or settles then go away but he's too good of a post player for us not to take advantage of those small guys guarding him. With that being said, he has to be smarter and take full advantage and not just settle

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

this game is simple. Everytime we play team ball we outscore them. Everytime we play one on one with the blinders on, they dominate us. Move the ball, take good shots, and make smart plays. Its not that hard, except for the low IQ Wizards

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I think if Charlie Villanueva only had to play the Wiz, he'd be an All-Star. Jason Maxiell also usually rips it up against Washington...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 6, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Over the last several years there've been a number of otherwise pedestrian players who look like All-Stars against the Wiz. Remember how Zaza Pachulia used to always dominate the Wiz on the glass?

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 6, 2011 7:29 PM | Report abuse

finally NY drives to the rim, has a wide open layin, and then pases it back out to Dray. Come on Nick

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Man Im starting to fall in love with Wall. If our FO doesnt screw it up, this kid could really lead us somewhere, espically if Dray bounces back next year like I think he can

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Wall shouldve shot that one. Next year we need better shooters around Wall. Everyone's been so inconsistent with that this year

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Dray is a plus 8 in a game that we are losing by double figures. If he can go the whole 4th then maybe we can come back but we instantly suck in this game everytime he goes out

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:57 PM | Report abuse

They are talking about Wall's rebounding these last 2 games and he has that in him. He's already averaging 4.3 or something and you would want our bigs to board more but at the same time Wall has enough hops, is quick enough, and aggressive enough to get nearly 6 boards per game and I think he's starting to realize that he can have that prime Jason Kidd type impact where he can pull the boards down & go with it and no one is going to stop him if he does that

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:59 PM | Report abuse

They are talking about Wall's rebounding these last 2 games and he has that in him. He's already averaging 4.3 or something and you would want our bigs to board more but at the same time Wall has enough hops, is quick enough, and aggressive enough to get nearly 6 boards per game and I think he's starting to realize that he can have that prime Jason Kidd type impact where he can pull the boards down & go with it and no one is going to stop him if he does that

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Crwawford is a short black reincarnation of Pesh....lol

Foreal though, he gets em up like he's Kobe or something

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Over the last several years there've been a number of otherwise pedestrian players who look like All-Stars against the Wiz. Remember how Zaza Pachulia used to always dominate the Wiz on the glass?

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 6, 2011 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Just one of about a billion reasons I ragged on haywood

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Dray is a plus 8 in a game that we are losing by double figures. If he can go the whole 4th then maybe we can come back but we instantly suck in this game everytime he goes out

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 7:57 PM | Report abuse

cartier martin is +6. Does that mean we should have him play the whole game?

Posted by: Blurred | March 6, 2011 8:17 PM | Report abuse

well one thing's for sure, if we lose this game you cant say we didnt have our chances. There have been like 10x where we couldve cut the lead to 2 or something just for us to miss a shot we couldve made and then they score like 5 straight right back in a sec.

Posted by: dlts2041 | March 6, 2011 8:17 PM | Report abuse

At Toronto and at Cleveland are the last two realistic chances to win road games. What's the NBA's worst road record in a season?

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 6, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I hate to think that dunk contest ruined Javale for the rest of the year, but the evidence does seem to be mounting...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 6, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

JaVale sure looks as if the dunk contest somehow validates his basketball talents.
The NBA road loss record for a season is 1-40. The Wiz will certainly challenge that mark.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 6, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

You're not going to beat DePaul if you get out boarded 45 to 29 and Javale can only get 2 count'em TWO rebounds he is a sorry excuse for a big man hell hiz momma can get rebounds!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | March 6, 2011 8:48 PM | Report abuse

McGee vs. Maxiell, advantage Maxiell
Booker vs. Villanueva, advantage Villanueva

There should of been frontcourt matchups for the Wizards to exploit besides Blatche vs. Wilcox.

Posted by: djnnnou | March 6, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: ritahudgins123 | March 7, 2011 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Definitely a game the Wiz could have taken. Detroit and Washington have about the same level of talent. The difference tonight to me was that Detroit was just a bit smarter and executed when it counted. Better ball movement leading to better shots. It helped having more vets to count on. And down the stretch the Wiz frequently looked confused on D or that they were playing D by rote. Meanwhile Detroit went to the mismatches and things that worked.

Posted by: ts35 | March 7, 2011 3:36 AM | Report abuse

but the thing I notice is how little impact outstanding rookies like Wall and Griffin and second-year stars like Kevin Love are having on their team's won-loss records. In the Wiz' case that's probably because of all the turnover in the roster -- it's just not a very good team. Harder to explain with the Clips and Minnesota, which started the season as stronger teams. I thought Sacto would have been much better but the decline in Evans' performance and the struggles of Cousins to adapt help to explain why they haven't.
Posted by: Samson151

Maybe you could expect the Clips to be better, Baron Davis plus Gordon (who's been hurt) plus Griffin --- maybe they should be better -- but I'm not sure why you would call Minnie a stronger team. They have Love.....and a lot of other guys. Their second 'best' player is Beasley.

By the way, outstanding players not having a big impact their first or second year is not a new phenomenon. And for the obvious reasons.

Posted by: ts35 | March 7, 2011 3:51 AM | Report abuse

The difference tonight to me was that Detroit was just a bit smarter and executed when it counted. Better ball movement leading to better shots. It helped having more vets to count on. And down the stretch the Wiz frequently looked confused on D or that they were playing D by rote. Meanwhile Detroit went to the mismatches and things that worked.

Posted by: ts35 | March 7, 2011 3:36 AM

The putrid defense is what I noticed. Terrible defense even for Wizards standards. They refused to get back in transition and allowed way to many passes in the paint for gimme's. I would have called a time out and threatened to kick somebody's ass if they don't tighten up.

Posted by: gmac78 | March 7, 2011 7:18 AM | Report abuse

I've accepted that Javale cannot anchor the defense. He could be used and be a part of a good defense but not the catalyst in the way Ben Wallace or Mutombo were in their best days. Those guys controlled the paint. Javale just can't process all aspects to control it in that way. The thing is Andray is going to have to play at least SOME D. He's giving no effort or thought to it at all.

Posted by: gmac78 | March 7, 2011 7:36 AM | Report abuse

"but I'm not sure why you would call Minnie a stronger team. They have Love.....and a lot of other guys. Their second 'best' player is Beasley."

Well, Kevin has been a lot more productive than any Wiz big man. That's a decided edge. So the question is about the 'other guys.'

I'm not a Beasley fan but so far this season, he's at 32.6 minutes, 19.2 points, 5.5 rbs, 2.2 assists, 45.3% FG, 35.5% 3's, 2.5 TOs. Those are Nick Young numbers at SF.

I know Darko is officially a bust and Javale is a dunking superstar, but productivity-wise they're not a whole different. Milicic 24.8 min, 46.4% FG, 9.1 pts, 5.4 rbs, 1.6 assts, 2.2 blks.
JM: 26.5 min, 54% FGs, 9 pts, 7.6 rbs, 0.4 assts, 2.2 blocks. Personally, I think Darko is a better defensive player than Javale.

The Wiz are playing a rookie PG. Ridnour has been respectable: 29 minutes, 12 pts, 46% FGs, 43.4% from 3, 90% FTs, 5.5 assts, 1.2 stls, 2.1 TOs. With Love in the middle you don't need a big-time pass-first PG.

Without going through the entire roster, I'd just say I think that team is pretty much even with the Wiz everywhere except inside, where they've been a whole lot stronger.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 7, 2011 7:44 AM | Report abuse

"By the way, outstanding players not having a big impact their first or second year is not a new phenomenon. Posted by: ts35"

I don't recall saying it was new. Just reminding folks that none of them are making a big difference in W-L.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 7, 2011 7:59 AM | Report abuse

One thing I'd add about Minnesota: they don't play much that you might recognize as defense. So that would be an advantage for Washington should our team ever decide to play any.

So far we've mostly resisted the temptation...

Posted by: Samson151 | March 7, 2011 8:01 AM | Report abuse

"I'm not a Beasley fan but so far this season, he's at 32.6 minutes, 19.2 points, 5.5 rbs, 2.2 assists, 45.3% FG, 35.5% 3's, 2.5 TOs. Those are Nick Young numbers at SF. "

Posted by: Samson151 | March 7, 2011 7:44 AM

If Young averaged 5.5 rpg or 2.2 apg, Wiz fans would be parading down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 7, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"The NBA road loss record for a season is 1-40. The Wiz will certainly challenge that mark."

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 6, 2011 8:47 PM

Look at the bright side . . . the worst they can do is tie it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 7, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

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